When do i get oghren

In Dragon, Branka gathered everyone in her household except for her husband and embarked on an excursion into the Deep Roads to find the Anvil of the Void. Crushed that she had left him behind, Oghren's drinking became all-consuming. Even when he tried to rekindle things with Felsi, his alcoholism drove her to the surface after he made a scene at her father's funeral.

All of this made him the laughingstock of Orzammar -- the man whose own wife was so ashamed of him she didn't even take him into the Deep Roads. Oghran continued to drink and make a fool of himself, pretending he couldn't hear the things people were saying about him.

When he overheard a lord's son saying Branka and her entire household were likely dead, Oghren took offense and challenged the other man to a fight. Drunk as he entered into battle, he killed the man in first-blood. The dishonor of the battle saw Oghren stripped of his weapons and his house name -- a punishment worse than exile. Over the next two years, he constantly pestered the Assembly to send a party to search for Branka.

It was only when the Grey Wardens arrived and found themselves caught up in Orzammar's politics did Oghren's chance to find Branka finally appear. We are just supposed to shut up and put up with Oghren in a game that won't allow us to kick him out of our party.

At least we could get rid of him in Awakening, but even then, we're forced to watch him harass Mhairi before we can kick him out.

Amazing that we can have dragons, and dwarves, and talking trees, but we can't imagine a world where women are treated like people. Even in a fantasy game, where nothing is "realistic" except for the crappy way women are treated. I guess I should just shrug and laugh at male gamers who rant about "realism" after having spent forty hours playing a mage.

Also, these male gamers who use the "realism" argument are just huge hypocrites. Because I remember the explosion heard 'round the world when Dragon Age 2 was first released and Anders gasp! Male gamers took to the forums to complain about how much they hated Anders, even though his flirting with Hawke is pretty damn respectful and not the least bit sexual harassment. Anders hitting on Hawke was pretty realistic, given that gay and bisexual people are inevitably going to hit on straight people and vice versa.

It's not like people are walking around wearing their sexuality on t-shirts. So when a male character crudely hits on female characters, and female gamers don't enjoy it, we're supposed to shut up, never complain, and just not use the character.

Meanwhile, male gamers can be as salty as they please about a bisexual character respectfully showing an interest in them. Aside from his crude sex jokes, Oghren is also constantly drunk, disrespectful, and deeply depressed. He's basically the epitome of everything the Warden shouldn't want in a follower. And yet, for some bizarre reason, the Warden allows him to follow them around, haphazardly waving a giant axe. That's right. Oghren is the follower that shouldn't have been.

Narratively, it makes no sense to recruit a great deal of the followers, but at least they weren't half as annoying, at least they weren't sexist, and at least we had a choice about recruiting them.

But when it comes to Oghren, we get stuck with burping and farting for the remaining hours of the game. The first time you see Oghren, he's demanding that someone help him find his wife, Branka. He gets yelled at by a guard, and it becomes apparent that not only is he a broken drunk, but also killed a young guy over a petty argument. This actual murder stripped him of his caste as a warrior and he was banned from the Diamond Quarter.

Just as it makes zero sense to trust and recruit Zevran and Sten, it also makes zero sense to trust and recruit Oghren. Like Zevran and Sten, the game's introduction of Oghren doesn't leave you with an excited feeling. I don't know about you, but I didn't watch Oghren get yelled at for murdering someone and think, "Oh boy! I wonder if we can recruit him!

I'm not sure why BioWare took this approach with the followers in Origins. Maybe they wanted to subvert our expectations by making us fall in love with characters that we would initially hate?

But for me this had the opposite effect. I haven't grown to love Sten and Oghren over the years. I've grown to tolerate them. If I do a replay of Origins these days, Sten is left to die, and depending on the playthrough, I'll use the Bye Oghren mod to be rid of Oghren. You're probably wondering what Oghren being a murderer has to do with anything. After all, plenty of your followers have killed innocents in the Dragon Age franchise.

My point is that Oghren has no redeeming qualities. Him being an all around gross person on top of being a murderer just makes it so much harder to like or care about him. Another reason I don't care much for Oghren is his aforementioned perverted-ness. To continue my mini rant from above. I mentioned before that I was a Zevran fan, and I know a lot of male players hate Zevran because he hits on the Warden and just about every follower in the party. But there's a huge difference between Zevran and Oghren.

And I think the difference is respect and disrespect, as well as intention. Zevran is the exact opposite of Oghren in every conceivable way. I don't want to go off on a tangent, so suffice it to say, Zevran's sexual comments are usually entirely innocent, for his own amusement, or as a weapon to defend himself.

Zevran comes from a culture where talking about sex is casual. So he doesn't see anything wrong with offering Alistair advice about his stamina ha ha or asking Leliana how she could possibly go a year in the monastery without sex.

On the other hand, he also uses sexual comments to amuse himself or defend himself. He suavely flirts with Morrigan until she's flattered to silence to win a bet and also makes dirty comments at Wynne to shut her down after she has been arrogant and condescending toward him. When the Warden first meets Zevran, he is quick to flatter her and make her laugh in the hope that she will not kill him.

Later, he respectfully flirts with her again, likely hoping she will like it enough to again not kill him. He uses sexual innuendo, flirting, and dirty talk as a survival mechanism.

Flamesz Status: Offline. By CharlesMarkley - Mon Aug 09, pm. CharlesMarkley Status: Offline. By jwsel - Mon Aug 09, pm. It's not listed in the Dragon Age Wiki's information about Oghren, which is pretty good at listing known bugs. However, in my game he never did so. I've seen several other people on forums with the same problem. User Info: hunter If you follow the storyline through Orzammar, eventually you should go to the Deep Roads looking for his wife. He will confront you right in front of the dwarves blocking the way into the Deep Roads and offer to help you.

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